Alien: Romulus director had an extensive call with James Cameron

Started by Nightmare Asylum, May 20, 2024, 01:25:16 PM

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Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

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Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 28, 2024, 04:52:54 PMI'd love to know what he was really thinking when he first saw Genysis. He must have been dying inside...

James Cameron was very involved in the making of Dark Fate. He assembled the writer's room, helped break the overall story arc of the trilogy, brought on Tim Miller, etc. It was more or less the same sort of working environment as making Alita: Battle Angel, except that where Cameron and Robert Rogriguez worked together without issue, Cameron and Miller butt heads a lot during the production of Dark Fate and didn't quite see eye to eye, and both parties have been very vocal about that after the fact. I'd argue that anything Cameron ever said about Dark Fate, good or bad, he genuinely believes. He never minced words about the nature of working on that movie or the messiness of his collaboration with Miller, so I can't imagine why he'd mince words about the end result, either.

With Terminator: Genisys, on the other hand... it seems like anything nice that he had said about that one ("I start to see things I recognize...") was more just a fluff piece favor born out of his friendship with David Ellison (head of Skydance). Dark Fate was more or less a direct response to his actual disappointment with what Genisys and the other sequels had done, allowing Cameron and his team to sort of "take back" and reorient the franchise as they best saw fit at the time, while still leaving it under Ellison's roof.

The Cruentus

I do think Cameron does seem sugarcoat his real opinions sometimes, at least more in modern times.

TheBATMAN

And Dark Fate was almost worse.

Nightmare Asylum

I felt my eyes totally glaze over on my one attempt at watching Genisys. Dark Fate has its problems, but it's also the only sequel in the franchise that I find has anything of interest to say. It isn't at the level of The Terminator or Judgement Day, but it's a pretty significant step above all of the others in my opinion. I can bring myself to revisit the film, which is way more than I can say about any of the other post-T2 installments.

BlueMarsalis79

Josh Friedman and Tim Miller should have wrote it together, James Cameron only brought it down.

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 28, 2024, 04:52:54 PMI'd love to know what he was really thinking when he first saw Genysis. He must have been dying inside...

He supported it because he was supporting his old pal Arnold, mostly.

aliens13

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2024, 05:49:19 PMI felt my eyes totally glaze over on my one attempt at watching Genisys. Dark Fate has its problems, but it's also the only sequel in the franchise that I find has anything of interest to say. It isn't at the level of The Terminator or Judgement Day, but it's a pretty significant step above all of the others in my opinion. I can bring myself to revisit the film, which is way more than I can say about any of the other post-T2 installments.
For me Salvation was the best Terminator film after T2, all the others are unwatchable for me

The Cruentus

I liked t3 but it tried probably too hard to be similar to T2 and replicate the whole road trip thing that T2 did, but overall I enjoyed. I liked how it made the future inevitable though not how it was delayed.

I liked dark fate quite a lot but I absolutely agree with the criticism it gets regarding what it did.

Salvation is a film I think that could been something great. It didn't try to rehash the time travel angle and focused on the future but I think it just executed it wrong. Still fairly enjoyable but I think out of all the post T2 sequels, Dark fate may be something I would rewatch more.

Genisys had some moments but it was too goofy and they butchered the portrayal of Kyle Reese.

Coolertonic7

Quote from: aliens13 on May 28, 2024, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2024, 05:49:19 PMI felt my eyes totally glaze over on my one attempt at watching Genisys. Dark Fate has its problems, but it's also the only sequel in the franchise that I find has anything of interest to say. It isn't at the level of The Terminator or Judgement Day, but it's a pretty significant step above all of the others in my opinion. I can bring myself to revisit the film, which is way more than I can say about any of the other post-T2 installments.
For me Salvation was the best Terminator film after T2, all the others are unwatchable for me

Thank you! I felt like I was going crazy for years seeing everyone hate salvation.

kwisatz

It is a bit shit though

Nightmare Asylum

Salvation's script is so unwieldy that it makes Prometheus's script feel like an incredibly tight, well-plotted masterpiece, and it looks ugly as sin to boot. Hate that washed out desaturated look it has so much.

Credit where credit is due, though, there's some really great Stan Winston animatronics in that movie.

The Cruentus

And they did try and do something new instead of rehashing the time travel.

BigDaddyJohn

Salvation was underwhelming. Genysis was bad, and Dark Fate was... Weird. Good things, and terrible ones.

Kimarhi

Quote from: Local Trouble on May 26, 2024, 04:27:28 PMI just saw Cailee Spaeny in Civil War.  She's 25, but she looks like she's about half that.

She's got a nice dump truck tho. 

[cancerblack]

Quote from: kwisatz on May 28, 2024, 09:27:33 PMIt is a bit shit though

I went to see it at the cinema and was entertained but aside from a crush on Bryce Dallas Howard I didn't really retain any of it.

Quote from: Kimarhi on May 29, 2024, 01:18:40 AMShe's got a nice dump truck tho. 

Someone had to say it.

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